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[proofofconcept]

I mean, I meant when I want to not sub but both

So idk how much nonsexual stuff you've done but I think an obedience test thing might be fun, like I have to talk without moving my hands, maybe you have like a crop or something to tap me with if I fuck up

[trigeminalheadache]

Both, please, yeah. Though I guess if you're helping me explore, when you want to sub is already built into it.

Dominating in a nonsexual way? That would be zero. But this sounds interesting. I don't have a crop, but I could probably get one.

[proofofconcept]

I have to assume they basically give stuff like that out like candy

The crop was just an idea, there's options. Other impact toys or just like a demerit system that add up to something at the end

[trigeminalheadache]

You're not entirely wrong. But if they ever gave me one, it's lost by now. Most of the doms I've been with either didn't do anything harder than a hand or hairbrush for impact play or had their own implements. And even then, I haven't really experienced more than a hand or a hairbrush.

I like the idea of the crop, but only if you're okay with it.

[proofofconcept]

I mean, if it turns out you're bad with the crop or something I can call yellow and we'll figure something out. A hit with a hairbrush per demerit or something. You're not gonna seriously hurt me in a few hits

That's the advantage of doing it in sort of a casual/nonsexual way, I have enough like wits about me to stop us if it's not working

Nonsexual might be a misnomer because I'll inevitably get turned on but like you know

[trigeminalheadache]

You'll just have to help me find the sweet spot with it. I'm stronger than I look, but I'm also not trying to hurt you. Not with the training wheels on. And, on top of that, not unless you decide that's something you want and I'm comfortable with.

Not that I'm calling you training wheels. The situation is training wheels. Hell, it's pretty much one of those toys you sit and scoot around on until you're ready for a tricycle. Then a bike with training wheels.

And if it is working? Does that go from casual into something sexual?

[proofofconcept]

"Training wheels" would not be the worst thing I've been called, trust me. I'm happy to be your training wheels

It can if you're interested. If not I probably just like go away and jerk off

[trigeminalheadache]

It's the sexiest of nicknames, clearly.

Well. I'd hate to do all that, get you turned on, and then not get to see it through.

[proofofconcept]

I mean I think it's pretty sexy to be like the safe space for someone to learn

Somehow I figured you'd be in that camp

[trigeminalheadache]

I mean, you're really sexy already.
But being a safe space and helping me? Extra sexy.

What might have given me away?

[proofofconcept]

You can keep it up with the crop while you you know help me with it or whatever you said. Tbh it's even better during

Actually maybe like just in moderation so I don't come in like thirty seconds

[trigeminalheadache]

But what if I wanted you to?

[proofofconcept]

You WANT me to come in thirty seconds?

[trigeminalheadache]

It's a hypothetical. I think.

[proofofconcept]

I guess I'm just like, MTV sex ed generation, the guy has to wait so the girl can come or whatever

But if you want me to try to get off fast I can? Hypothetically

[Of course, watch him get performance anxiety and this end up being the one time he needs like an hour.]

[trigeminalheadache]

I don't mind if you come before I do.
Just as long as I do. Unless you're not-subbing and that's part of it.

I don't know. Let's start with casual and see how things go.

[proofofconcept]

So that means you're into denial too, huh?

[trigeminalheadache]

I am. I haven't done it much, but when it's happened, it's been good.

I was gifted a set of charmed earrings that are basically constant edging/denial. Until I'm given permission.

[proofofconcept]

Noted.

That's really interesting actually. I wonder if I could get like a bracelet that prevents orgasms from happening? That might be fun

[trigeminalheadache]

I am about 99% sure Nate Hawthorne can do something like that for you. He's the one who gave me the earrings.

[proofofconcept]

Also noted

If it's a bracelet I could put it on other people too

[trigeminalheadache]

You'd have to talk to him about that sort of thing. My earrings, only one produces the effect. The other is to make sure that it isn't without my consent.

Not that I think you'd try without explicit or enthusiastic consent. But that's his thought process. Same with the temporary tattoos he does. Those come with a mental safeword to shut them down.

[proofofconcept]

I mean I figure you can just knock a bracelet off pretty easily but yeah, I'll talk to him

[trigeminalheadache]

I'm overthinking it. Sorry.

[proofofconcept]

No I mean that's relevant information or whatever, that he'll probably want some kind of consent failsafe